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Super 10 or 12 ?

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:06 pm
by Oz singer
I bought this chassis who appears to be a Super 10 but a friend's saying that could be a 12 !
I know ( Google is your friend ! ) , that one of the differences is the track width . But what are the numbers ?? Cannot find them.
Any better experts than me here ? :D Thanks in advance.
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Re: Super 10 or 12 ?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:56 pm
by Phillip
Looks prer-war for sure and maybe not either a Super Ten or Super Twelve. I thought those had pressed steel wheels. Brakes and shocks look early Lockheed and Luvax respectively. Maybe a Singer Eleven?

Re: Super 10 or 12 ?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:58 pm
by Phillip
Judging from the castings and design I'm going to guess @1936

Re: Super 10 or 12 ?

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:36 pm
by Oz singer
Not easy isn't it ? I looked at Morris as well but different. I'll keep looking :)

Re: Super 10 or 12 ?

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:13 am
by Oz singer
Found it ! Thanks to the SOC .

Singer 11 De Luxe 1936/37

All good!!

Re: Super 10 or 12 ?

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:22 pm
by Phillip
LOL! Looks like I was pretty much bang on for an educated guess!

Re: Super 10 or 12 ?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:03 pm
by cev196
Is 15183 the chassis number?

Re: Super 10 or 12 ?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:35 pm
by Phillip
It should be stamped on the side of that front spring hanger casting...

Re: Super 10 or 12 ?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:47 am
by Oz singer
Yes 15183 is the number stamped on the frame. I cannot see any letters.

Re: Super 10 or 12 ?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:47 pm
by cev196
That number is in the series for a Super Nine, essentially a 4 door Bantam. The Eleven only had a 4 figure chassis number, however I am open to discussion if there is disagreement re this.

Re: Super 10 or 12 ?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:50 am
by Oz singer
Well ? This could be something else too , I find horrendously hard to identify anything Singer !!

The parts I have like frame, elements of the body especially the front and back windows and rear doors who are longer match this picture.
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Except the bonnet, mine lack the louvers. And the grill who appears different.

Then my grill match this one !
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1939 - Super 12

And my chassis is similar to the 10Hp, but longer and wider.
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But to use as a special it will offer plenty of room and strong for a big motor.
So, at the moment this will go in the too hard basket . :? :?

Re: Super 10 or 12 ?

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:19 am
by tvdwerf
The number can be a factory "fault", One of the 4A roadsters I bought, has a double number, a 3A with a 4 over the 3.
It was all handwork these years , and it is possible one of the people took a wrong tool to put the numbers in.
Try to find the axle numbers, they can tell also a bit.