1934 Sports
Re: 1934 Sports
My pleasure!
Maybe they will help Arnhaug...
Maybe they will help Arnhaug...
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'28 Senior, '33 & '34 Sports, '36 Le Mans SS & Bantam
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'28 Senior, '33 & '34 Sports, '36 Le Mans SS & Bantam
Re: 1934 Sports
Latest photos attached - you see, there is some progress!! I'm back on the bonnet area whilst the rear seat is being made, though I have some woodwork to do before it can be fitted
Re: 1934 Sports
Very crisp work Bill - Looks great.
Re: 1934 Sports
Looking very nice indeed!
I like the door panel pockets and particularly the contrasting stitches.
Thanks and keep posting, please.
Inspiring!
I like the door panel pockets and particularly the contrasting stitches.
Thanks and keep posting, please.
Inspiring!
Re: 1934 Sports
Rear seat completed and work on fronts has started. Bonnet almost ready for filling / spraying too!!
Re: 1934 Sports
Wow! Very nice!
Looking forward to seeing the finished article outside in the sunshine!
Looking forward to seeing the finished article outside in the sunshine!
Your Friendly Canadian Pre-War Singer Specialist, Collector & Historian,
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Singer Enthusiast for over 40 Years.
'28 Senior, '33 & '34 Sports, '36 Le Mans SS & Bantam
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'28 Senior, '33 & '34 Sports, '36 Le Mans SS & Bantam
Re: 1934 Sports
Very nice work Bill!
Re: 1934 Sports
Hi,great job. One question is the cover on the top of the rear an original style item, ie behind the top of the back section?
Re: 1934 Sports
Hi Darcy,
Not sure if this is identical to the original way of doing things but there has to be something like it. Otherwise there would be no room for side screen stowage behind the seat back. I made a box section in the floor (photo next time) to give a bit more depth to the floor so they would fit. Also because of the 6 cylinder engine & box being fitted there was no room for the battery under the front seat so I've moved it to behind the rear seat back (drivers side). In fitting the bigger engine I have not done anything that cannot be easily reversed if it was decided at any time by some one else that they wanted an original car. The chassis and front axle are off a saloon 9 because the car had an accident which bent both (in the early 1960's). Steering gear was also damaged (so I changed to '36 fore and aft set up). Everything else is 1934 and I have the steel bonnet which came with the boxes of bits when bought. The '35 ali type is much lighter and helps to compensate for the extra weight of engine; fins fitted to original drums have stiffened the originals up so braking should be improved. I'm itching to get it on the road now!!
thanks to you guys on the forum for all your help & encouragement
Bill
Not sure if this is identical to the original way of doing things but there has to be something like it. Otherwise there would be no room for side screen stowage behind the seat back. I made a box section in the floor (photo next time) to give a bit more depth to the floor so they would fit. Also because of the 6 cylinder engine & box being fitted there was no room for the battery under the front seat so I've moved it to behind the rear seat back (drivers side). In fitting the bigger engine I have not done anything that cannot be easily reversed if it was decided at any time by some one else that they wanted an original car. The chassis and front axle are off a saloon 9 because the car had an accident which bent both (in the early 1960's). Steering gear was also damaged (so I changed to '36 fore and aft set up). Everything else is 1934 and I have the steel bonnet which came with the boxes of bits when bought. The '35 ali type is much lighter and helps to compensate for the extra weight of engine; fins fitted to original drums have stiffened the originals up so braking should be improved. I'm itching to get it on the road now!!
thanks to you guys on the forum for all your help & encouragement
Bill
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Re: 1934 Sports
No there was no cover. The seat fits up against the back of the tub and the side curtains fit behind it and rest on a shelf which sits level with the lower edge of the body.
Peter McKercher
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Automotive Historian
Author of "Racing Roadsters"
Vice President - NASOC
Pre war Singer Specialist and Collector
Automotive Historian
Author of "Racing Roadsters"
Re: 1934 Sports
Thanks,that’s what I thought
Re: 1934 Sports
Thanks guys, but if you have a look at the first pic I posted of the rear trim you can see a vertical post in the centre. That was copied off the original body frame work and came up to a horizontal bar across the car on this vehicle. The cross bar was jointed into the side frames under the ali skin; I just copied what was there, but makes you wonder what should be classed as "original"??
regards
Bill
regards
Bill
Re: 1934 Sports
Here are a few photos illustrating the rear seat design using one that still has its original wood and upholstery, plus a new one I have made up for another project...
ABOVE: This is a new plywood rear seat back in position. The top rests against the rear of the body and the sides are cut to fit into the steel floor pan - not installed here. A shaped spring cushion is fitted to this panel and covered in a leather facing and Rexine (an early kind of vinyl) sides.
ABOVE: Behind this seat back panel is a storage area that is basically a rectangular box that extends below the chassis line, behind the petrol tank, to the bottom of the rear bodywork.
ABOVE: This is an original seat back still with the original upholstery as fitted to my 1934 Nine Sports. The pleats are two inches across, BTW.
This is the rear of the seat back. A strip of plywood with a wooden fillet at the bottom keeps the seat back at the right angle and in place.
ABOVE: Here's a detail shot of the side of the seat back better illustrating the lower section at right angles.
ABOVE: This is the seat cushion, again an original item. It's basically a bag with a plywood base. Originally the cars had rubber bladders in the front and rear seat cushions. As with all the seats, only the seat facings are leather, the sides and trim are Rexine, as are the door panels.
ABOVE: This is the underside of the seat cushion showing the plywood base. This seat retained its original upholstery, but, as with most, the rubber bladder perished and was replace with Dunlopillo - which is now pretty rotten too! The cutout in the base is to clear the hump in the rear steel floor pan which gives more clearance for the center of the rear axle. The back edge of the seat cushion has a flap with Durable Dot fasteners to allow the bladder to be removed. Note that the plywood base fits into the rear steel floor pan, but the sides of the cushion extend out on either side to push up against the wheel arches.
Hope that helps!
ABOVE: This is a new plywood rear seat back in position. The top rests against the rear of the body and the sides are cut to fit into the steel floor pan - not installed here. A shaped spring cushion is fitted to this panel and covered in a leather facing and Rexine (an early kind of vinyl) sides.
ABOVE: Behind this seat back panel is a storage area that is basically a rectangular box that extends below the chassis line, behind the petrol tank, to the bottom of the rear bodywork.
ABOVE: This is an original seat back still with the original upholstery as fitted to my 1934 Nine Sports. The pleats are two inches across, BTW.
This is the rear of the seat back. A strip of plywood with a wooden fillet at the bottom keeps the seat back at the right angle and in place.
ABOVE: Here's a detail shot of the side of the seat back better illustrating the lower section at right angles.
ABOVE: This is the seat cushion, again an original item. It's basically a bag with a plywood base. Originally the cars had rubber bladders in the front and rear seat cushions. As with all the seats, only the seat facings are leather, the sides and trim are Rexine, as are the door panels.
ABOVE: This is the underside of the seat cushion showing the plywood base. This seat retained its original upholstery, but, as with most, the rubber bladder perished and was replace with Dunlopillo - which is now pretty rotten too! The cutout in the base is to clear the hump in the rear steel floor pan which gives more clearance for the center of the rear axle. The back edge of the seat cushion has a flap with Durable Dot fasteners to allow the bladder to be removed. Note that the plywood base fits into the rear steel floor pan, but the sides of the cushion extend out on either side to push up against the wheel arches.
Hope that helps!
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'28 Senior, '33 & '34 Sports, '36 Le Mans SS & Bantam
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Re: 1934 Sports
Thank you. That was what I was looking for.
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Re: 1934 Sports
I've never seen a centre strut on these. That's what the steel reinforcement was for.telco.2 wrote:Thanks guys, but if you have a look at the first pic I posted of the rear trim you can see a vertical post in the centre. That was copied off the original body frame work and came up to a horizontal bar across the car on this vehicle. The cross bar was jointed into the side frames under the ali skin; I just copied what was there, but makes you wonder what should be classed as "original"??
regards
Bill
Peter McKercher
Vice President - NASOC
Pre war Singer Specialist and Collector
Automotive Historian
Author of "Racing Roadsters"
Vice President - NASOC
Pre war Singer Specialist and Collector
Automotive Historian
Author of "Racing Roadsters"