I have a question re the alloy stone guards attached to the rear mudguards of the earlier Le Mans cars.
My car is a replica and does not have the stone guards fitted. I want to make some but I can't figure out how they were originally fitted. Can anyone help me with info and/or photographs...
Thanks,
John Lye [NZ]
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you can't fit them to your car so send yours to me
Dave Hardwick no longer makes them and I can't get a set so I can't help but if you find any spares around, let me know.
Dave Hardwick no longer makes them and I can't get a set so I can't help but if you find any spares around, let me know.
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Re: Stone Guards....
John.
I've met a couple of owners who have had them made and they say they are difficult. The attached photo shows a reconstructed guard, apparantly "it was the most difficult job I have done" I have the same problem and I rather suspect its going to be "a nice to have" but will do without.
Brian.
I've met a couple of owners who have had them made and they say they are difficult. The attached photo shows a reconstructed guard, apparantly "it was the most difficult job I have done" I have the same problem and I rather suspect its going to be "a nice to have" but will do without.
Brian.
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Dave has quit making them as they have to be fit individually to each wing as all these things are hand made and subject to variation. A good panel beater should have no difficulty making them. However, if the panel beater is accustomed to working in steel, expect some difficulties. Aluminum is quite a different medium.
The shape itself is quite simple. With respect to how it attaches, it is a combination of curling the mud guard around the outer and bottom edges of the rear wing and a friction fit on the inner side of the mud guard between the wing and the body; that is, two edges are curled around the wing and the top and inner edges are flat.
The shape itself is quite simple. With respect to how it attaches, it is a combination of curling the mud guard around the outer and bottom edges of the rear wing and a friction fit on the inner side of the mud guard between the wing and the body; that is, two edges are curled around the wing and the top and inner edges are flat.
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Re: Stone Guards....
Thanks a lot for the helpful advice and photos. I suspected that this would be a tricky job but fortunately I have access to
a very cleaver chap who does magic things with aluminium!
My car is not a genuine Le Mans rather it is a hand made Singer 9 Sports.
The rear guards are a quite different shape to the LM - flatter and wider so fitting may not be such a problem.
The reason I want to fit them is to cover up an acne of stone chips!
Cheers to all....
a very cleaver chap who does magic things with aluminium!
My car is not a genuine Le Mans rather it is a hand made Singer 9 Sports.
The rear guards are a quite different shape to the LM - flatter and wider so fitting may not be such a problem.
The reason I want to fit them is to cover up an acne of stone chips!
Cheers to all....
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I wonder why Dave quit making them (and will ask him), they look deceptively easy to make if you have a English wheel. Yes, I know all the cars are slightly different but it would be close at least and could finish it off a car. Its going to be a long while before I need them but I will give making a pair a shot on the wheel if I don't find a pair first.
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He got too many complaints from people who wanted to buy them ready to go.
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