Stone Guards....

For now, I lumped all the pre-war cars together, I would LOVE for there to be enough demand to split it into groups (hint...hint, post here about your pre-war Singer)
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I have a question re the alloy stone guards attached to the rear mudguards of the earlier Le Mans cars.
My car is a replica and does not have the stone guards fitted. I want to make some but I can't figure out how they were originally fitted. Can anyone help me with info and/or photographs...

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you can't fit them to your car so send yours to me :) :) :)

Dave Hardwick no longer makes them and I can't get a set so I can't help but if you find any spares around, let me know.
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John.
I've met a couple of owners who have had them made and they say they are difficult. The attached photo shows a reconstructed guard, apparantly "it was the most difficult job I have done" I have the same problem and I rather suspect its going to be "a nice to have" but will do without.
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Dave has quit making them as they have to be fit individually to each wing as all these things are hand made and subject to variation. A good panel beater should have no difficulty making them. However, if the panel beater is accustomed to working in steel, expect some difficulties. Aluminum is quite a different medium.

The shape itself is quite simple. With respect to how it attaches, it is a combination of curling the mud guard around the outer and bottom edges of the rear wing and a friction fit on the inner side of the mud guard between the wing and the body; that is, two edges are curled around the wing and the top and inner edges are flat.
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Thanks a lot for the helpful advice and photos. I suspected that this would be a tricky job but fortunately I have access to
a very cleaver chap who does magic things with aluminium!
My car is not a genuine Le Mans rather it is a hand made Singer 9 Sports.
The rear guards are a quite different shape to the LM - flatter and wider so fitting may not be such a problem.
The reason I want to fit them is to cover up an acne of stone chips!

Cheers to all....
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I wonder why Dave quit making them (and will ask him), they look deceptively easy to make if you have a English wheel. Yes, I know all the cars are slightly different but it would be close at least and could finish it off a car. Its going to be a long while before I need them but I will give making a pair a shot on the wheel if I don't find a pair first.
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He got too many complaints from people who wanted to buy them ready to go.
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