New Project

For now, I lumped all the pre-war cars together, I would LOVE for there to be enough demand to split it into groups (hint...hint, post here about your pre-war Singer)
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New Project

Postby ColinB » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:33 am

I couldn't resist this. A very rare car: this is only the second one known to exist according to the Singer Owners Club. John is going to deliver it to me within the next 10 days or so. Am I excited?- WOW yes indeed I am very excited....!!

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Re: New Project

Postby mothy » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:50 am

Wow, your energy for projects is insatiable!
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Re: New Project

Postby mikeyr » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:07 pm

great project, my favorite is always puzzles like this one, when some previous owner dismantled and now you puzzle out where it goes. Hint: the motor is up front :)
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Re: New Project

Postby ColinB » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:17 pm

Ha ha! Thanks Mike that is helpful :D . I'll post a photo-survey when she arrives. My wife has already christened her
Big B(ertha) to go with her sister car Little Bea!

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Re: New Project

Postby Peter McKercher » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:24 pm

Great project Colin. I look forward to your progress reports.
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Re: New Project

Postby cdk84 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:37 am

Hi Colin,

So happy to think you will have some focus for your long winter nights --for years to come...

Very Best of Luck, Joy and Progress with your new friend.

Cheers,

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Re: New Project

Postby ColinB » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:20 am

The pictures show ASCO's Light Six which has a different curved headlight bar to my straight one, and a picture pulled off the net which looks more similar. The original advert also shows a straight bar. John tells me he has lot of material on the car so I have many hours to look forward to reading it all through and deciding how to approach the project.
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Re: New Project

Postby Phillip » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:58 pm

Awesome new project and a rare car saved!

Well done!

Amazing how 'American' the styling is on these...
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Re: New Project

Postby Phillip » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:02 pm

interesting to see the ad for Cook & Palmer, who were one of the biggest Singer agents as I recall.

My 1933 Nine Sports came from the same dealership, delivered by a 'Mr Wilby' it appears in the ledgers. The first owner's neighbourhood has long since been re-developed and was perhaps bombed out during the war.

Love the cultural and historical perspective that goes along with the history of our cars!
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Re: New Project

Postby ColinB » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:51 am

John tells me he has the original buff log book as well as a contemporary sales brochure and other documents, so hopefully I can report on her history when I get these. She still has her original number plate (GN7370) which is marvellous and apparently everything is there including lights, instruments etc. although I'm not sure what is attached and what is loose. He will bring it up to Wisbech next week when we have a dry day so I'll post further information and pictures after arrival.

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Re: New Project

Postby ColinB » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:31 pm

Arrived today. Lots to do but its better than it looks so I'm very happy. I think the only difficult woodwork is the piece that locks the roof to the top of the screen. This has rotted off so the whole body sways but the rest of the structure looks OK. Floors of course are missing. I'll empty her out tomorrow and try and do a complete survey and work plan.
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Re: New Project

Postby ColinB » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:01 pm

Cleared her out today and have a far better idea of what needs doing. The chassis is very sound and panels are all good, as are the doors and door panels. Floors need replacing but that is very easy. Two major problems are: 1) The engine is seized. It is currently soaking in diesel so I'll give it another try on the handle tomorrow; 2) The 'beak' over the windscreen is rotten and has allowed the roof line to wander around. In addition there seems to be some sagging in the longitudinal wooden members that run the length of each side over the chassis. These two factors are resulting in very poor door gaps and large spaces above the doors on the passenger side.

Overall I'm pretty pleased - if I can get the engine moving I'll be especially happy.

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Re: New Project

Postby mikeyr » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:58 pm

you already have the engine in the front, so that is half the puzzle. Now to turn the engine over is easy, loosen the front and the rear motor mounts, get a long crowbar about 6ft. so you have leverage, on one side of the engine and flip it over, voila the engine is turned over. You are welcome for the help :)

That looks like such a cool project, I am jealous.
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Re: New Project

Postby mikeC » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:05 pm

Rather than trying to turn the engine on the handle, put it in first gear and try rocking the car back and forth.
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Re: New Project

Postby DarcyG » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:04 pm

Looks good, you at least have templates for every piece of original timber (including the holes for the floor), doors, linnings etc. instruments etc are also there. Should be finished inside of 6 months???? Or is 6 years!


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